Notes and Queries, Number 17, February 23, 1850. Various

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as they deserve to be.

MELANION.

      ST. ANTHOLIN'S

      Your correspondent MR. RIMBAULT (No. 12.) has made rather a grave charge against my predecessors in office as churchwardens and overseers of this parish; and although, I regret to say, such accusations of unjust stewardship and dereliction of duty are frequently and with justice imputed to some parish officers, yet I am happy to be able, in this instance, to remove the stigma which would otherwise attach to those of St. Antholin. The churchwardens' accounts are in good preservation, and present (in an unbroken series) the parish expenditure for nearly three centuries.

      Mr. Rimbault has doubtless been misled by some error in the description of the MSS. in Mr. Thorpe's catalogue (as advertised by him for sale), which were probably merely extracts from the original records.

      The first volume commences with the year 1574, and finishes in 1708; the accounts are all written at the time of their respective dates, and regularly signed by the auditors then and there present as correct.

      I have made numerous extracts from these interesting documents, and notes thereon, which I shall at some future time be happy to lay before your readers, if you should consider them of sufficient importance.

      As a voucher for what I have stated with regard to their existence, and to give some idea of their general character, I have selected (at random) a few items from the year 1580-1:—

      "The Accompte of Henrie Jaye, Churchwarden of the Parishe of St. Antholyne, from the feaste of the Anunciacon of our Ladye in Anno 1580 unto the same feaste followinge in Anno 1581."

      Among the "receaittes" we have—

      "Rd of Mr. Thorowgoode for an olde font stone,

      by the consente of a vestrie vs iiijd

      "Rd for the clothe of bodkine11 yt Ser Roger

      Marten hade before in keppinge, and now

      sold by the consente of a vestry and our

      mynnister iijli vjs viijd

      "The Payments as followithe:—

      "Pd to the wife of John Bakone gwder of the

      Lazer cotte at Myle End12 in full of her due

      for keppinge of Evan Redde yt was Mr.

      Hariots mane till his departtur and for his

      Shete and Burialle as dothe apere xls viijd

      "Pd for makinge of the Longe pillowe & the

      pulpit clothe ijs

      "Pd for a yard and a nale of fustane for the same

      pillowe xvjd

      "Pd for silke to the same pillowe xvjd

      "Pd for xjli of fethers for the same pillowe, at

      vd – - iiijs vijd

      "Pd for brede and beer that day the quen cam

      in xijd

      "Pd for candells and mendinge the baldrocke13 vjd

      "Pd for paynttinge ye stafe of the survayer iijd

      "Pd for mendynge the lytell bell iijs

      "Pd to Mr. Sanders for the yearly rent of the

      Laystall and skowringe the harnes14 for

      his yer iijs viijd

      "Pd to Mr. Wright for the makinge of the Cloke15

      mor than he gatheride, agred one at the laste

      vestrie xvijs

      "Pd to Peter Medcalfe for mending the Cloke

      when it neade due at or Ladies Daye laste

      past in Anno 1581 iijs

      "Pd for entringe this account xxd."

W.C., JUNIOR,

      Overseer of St. Antholin, 1850.

      QUERIES

      COLLEGE SALTING

      Mr. Editor.—If your very valuable work had existed in October, 1847, when I published in the British Magazine a part of Archibishop Whitgift's accounts relative to his pupils while he was Master of Trinity College, Cambridge, I should certainly have applied to you for assistance.

      In several of the accounts there is a charge for the pupil's "salting;" and after consulting gentlemen more accurately informed with regard to the customs of the university than myself, I was obliged to append a note to the word, when it occurred for the first time in the account of Lord Edward Zouch, in which I said, "I must confess my inability to explain this word; and do not know whether it may be worth while to state that, on my mentioning it to a gentleman, once a fellow-commoner of the college, he told me, that when, as a freshman, he was getting his gown from the maker, he made some remark on the long strips of sleeve by which such gowns are distinguished, and was told that they were called 'salt-bags,' but he could not learn why; and an Oxford friend tells me, that going to the buttery to drink salt and water was part of the form of his admission.... This nobleman's (i.e. Lord Edward Zouch's) amounted to 4s., and that of the Earl of Cumberland to 3s. 4d., while in other cases it was as low as 8d." To this I added the suggestion that it was probably some fee, or expense, which varied according to the rank of the parties. It afterwards occurred to me that this "salting" was, perhaps, some entertainment given by the new-comer, from and after which he ceased to be "fresh;" and that while we seem to have lost the "salting" both really and nominally, we retain the word to which it has reference.

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<p>11</p>

Brodekine. A richly-gilt stuff.

<p>12</p>

It appears from an entry in the preceding year, that this man was first sent to "Sentt Thomas Spittell in Soughwork," when it was discovered that he was afflicted with the leprosy, or some cutaneous disease, and immediately removed to the Lazar-house at Mile End, it being strictly forbidden that such cases should remain in the hospitals. These lazar-houses were built away from the town; one was the Lock Hospital, in Southwark; one at Kingsland, another at Knightsbridge, and that mentioned above between Mile End and Stratford. The laws were very strict in the expulsion of leprous people from the city; and if they attempted to force their way into the hospitals, they were bound fast to horses, and dragged away to the lazar-houses.

<p>13</p>

The baldricke was the garter and buckle by means of which the clapper was suspended inside the bell.

<p>14</p>

Harnes, or armour, which perhaps hung over some of the monuments in the church.

<p>15</p>

It was about this time that clocks began to be generally used in churches (although of a much earlier invention); and in subsequent years we have several items of expenditure connected with that above mentioned. In 1595:—

"Paid for a small bell for the watche iiijs"Paid to the smith for Iron worke to it xxd"Paid for a waight for the Clocke wayinge36lb and for a ringe of Iron vs."

Still, however, the hour-glass was used at the pulpit-desk, to determine the length the parson should go in his discourse; and xijd for a new hour-glass frequently occurs.