Jenner. When did you give that advice and make that request?
Mr. Oswald. At the Inn of the Six Flags.
Mr. Jenner. Was this the same occasion about which you have already testified, and which consideration was being given, to whether your sister-in-law Marina would reside with the Martins rather than with the Paines?
Mr. Oswald. This was the first occasion, sir.
Mr. Jenner. I take it then from your present testimony, just answering my present questions, that the discussion went beyond the question whether Marina would reside with the Paines as distinguished from the Martins, and when I say beyond, it went to the question of whether Marina would have anything to do with the Paines thereafter.
Am I correct?
Mr. Oswald. Not fully, sir.
Mr. Jenner. All right. Will you please explain?
Mr. Oswald. To the extent that the question arose whether or not after our first agreement that she would not live with the Paines, that question never has been brought up again. The question has come up from Mrs. Marina Oswald. The time I fix this second query or inquiry from her was approximately December 20 or 21, 1963, at which time we were advised that Mrs. Paine had written her a letter or letters requesting that she contact Mrs. Paine.
Mr. Jenner. What was the date?
Mr. Oswald. Approximately December 20 or December 21.
Mr. Jenner. Marina advised you that Mrs. Ruth Paine had written her.
Mr. Oswald. That is correct, sir.
Mr. Jenner. Had written her, Marina?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner. Asking Marina to do what?
Mr. Oswald. To contact Mrs. Paine; that Mrs. Paine wanted to speak with her. I do not recall any specific reference as to what she had to speak to her about. She just wanted to speak to Marina Oswald. She did not reply to these letters. She asked me would it be all right in my opinion for her to call her on the phone.
I recommended that she did not talk to Mrs. Paine at all nor answer her letters and to my knowledge this request has been done.
Mr. McKenzie. To the best of your knowledge, is that right?
Mr. Oswald. To the best of my knowledge she has not contacted Mr. or Mrs. Paine.
Mr. Jenner. She has followed your admonition or advice to have no contact whatever with Mrs. Paine?
Mr. Oswald. That is correct, sir.
Mr. Jenner. Or to permit Mrs. Paine to have any contact with her, Marina?
Mr. Oswald. That is correct, sir.
Mr. McKenzie. May I ask a question right there, please?
Mr. Jenner. Yes.
Mr. McKenzie. Mr. Oswald, your testimony is from the best of your knowledge, is that correct, insofar as any contact with the Paines or Mrs. Paine is concerned?
Mr. Oswald. That is correct, sir.
Mr. McKenzie. And if the Paines have contacted Marina Oswald or if Marina Oswald has contacted the Paines, do you or do you not know of any such contact?
Mr. Oswald. I am not aware of any such contact.
Mr. McKenzie. All right, sir. Proceed.
Mr. Jenner. I direct your attention to the month of October, 1962 for a moment. Were you aware that your sister-in-law Marina was living with Elena Hall at that time?
Mr. Oswald. October, 1962, sir?
Mr. Jenner. Yes.
Mr. Oswald. One moment, please.
No, sir. I was not aware of that.
Mr. Jenner. Were you aware of where your brother Lee was living in the month of October, 1962?
Mr. Oswald. Only to the city in which he was living.
Mr. Jenner. And what city was that?
Mr. Oswald. Dallas, Tex., sir. If I might ask, sir, can you fix the date in October, 1962 when Marina Oswald was reported living with Mrs. Hall?
Mr. Jenner. No, I can't at the moment. But neither Marina nor your brother was residing in Fort Worth at that time?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir, they were not.
Mr. Jenner. From your previous testimony I gather that you did not know the whereabouts of your brother Lee other than that it was, you supposed, somewhere in Dallas?
Mr. Oswald. That is correct, sir.
If I might make one correction, sir.
Mr. Jenner. All right.
Mr. Oswald. Referring to the postcard received from Lee Oswald post dated October 10, 1962 in Dallas, Tex., I recall receiving this two days after he had moved from Fort Worth, Tex., so it would be the first part of October of 1962 they were residing in Fort Worth, Tex.
Mr. Jenner, All right, with the exception of that.
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner. I take it you are not in the habit of retaining personal correspondence you receive from others?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I am not.
Mr. Jenner. I think you have explained why you retained the particular correspondence that you produced for us, that it was from your brother while he was in Russia.
Mr. Oswald. That is correct, sir.
Mr. Jenner. And after he returned you received some correspondence and you retained that as well.
Mr. Oswald. That is correct, sir.
Mr. Jenner. Did the somewhat abrupt change in the attitude of your brother Lee toward the United States come as a surprise to you?
Mr. Oswald. You are referring to the period in 1959?
Mr. Jenner. I am.
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; it did.
Mr. Jenner. That is the letters of May 5 and May 31 and those that followed. But that change, and his desire to return to the United States, did come as a surprise to you, is that correct, sir?
Mr. McKenzie. Are you asking about his return to the United States or his going to Russia?
Mr. Jenner. No, sir, his return to the United States, his change of attitude.
Mr. Oswald. It was quite a surprise to me that he wished to return to the United States from Russia.
Mr. Jenner. Was the change in attitude toward the United States as expressed
