Oswald. Yes.
Mr. Rankin. But you have said since the assassination that you didn't want to believe it, but you had to believe that your husband had killed President Kennedy, is that right?
Mrs. Oswald. Yes. There were some facts, but not too many, and I didn't know too much about it at that time yet. After all, there are in life some accidental concurrences of circumstances. And it is very difficult to believe in that.
Mr. Rankin. But from what you have learned since that time, you arrived at this conclusion, did you, that your husband had killed the President?
Mrs. Oswald. Yes. Unfortunately, yes.
Mr. Rankin. And you related those facts that you learned to what you already knew about your life with him and what you knew he had done and appeared to be doing in order to come to that conclusion?
Mrs. Oswald. Yes.
Mr. Rankin. When you saw your husband on November 23d, at the police station, did you ask him if he had killed President Kennedy?
Mrs. Oswald. No.
Mr. Rankin. Did you ask him at that time if he had killed Officer Tippit?
Mrs. Oswald. No. I said, "I don't believe that you did that, and everything will turn out well."
After all, I couldn't accuse him—after all, he was my husband.
Mr. Rankin. And what did he say to that?
Mrs. Oswald. He said that I should not worry, that everything would turn out well. But I could see by his eyes that he was guilty. Rather, he tried to appear to be brave. However, by his eyes I could tell that he was afraid.
This was just a feeling. It is hard to describe.
Mr. Rankin. Would you help us a little bit by telling us what you saw in his eyes that caused you to think that?
Mrs. Oswald. He said goodbye to me with his eyes. I knew that. He said that everything would turn out well, but he did not believe it himself.
Mr. Rankin. How could you tell that?
Mrs. Oswald. I saw it in his eyes.
Mr. Rankin. Did your husband ever at any time say to you that he was responsible or had anything to do with the killing of President Kennedy?
Mrs. Oswald. After Kennedy—I only saw him once, and he didn't tell me anything, and I didn't see him again.
Mr. Rankin. And did he at any time tell you that he had anything to do with the shooting of Officer Tippit?
Mrs. Oswald. No.
Mr. Rankin. Did you ever ask your husband why he ran away or tried to escape after the assassination?
Mrs. Oswald. I didn't ask him about that.
Mr. Rankin. On either November 22d, or Saturday, November 23d, did anyone contact you and advise you that your husband was going to be shot?
Mrs. Oswald. No.
Mr. Rankin. Where did you spend the evening of November 23d?
Mrs. Oswald. After seeing Lee, we went with some reporters of Life Magazine who had rented a room, but it turned out to be—in a hotel—but it turned out to be inconvenient because there were many people there and we went to another place. We were in a hotel in Dallas, but I don't know the name.
Mr. Rankin. Who was with you at that time?
Mrs. Oswald. Lee's mother.
Mr. Rankin. Anyone else?
Mrs. Oswald. No—June and Rachel.
Mr. Rankin. Was Robert with you at all?
Mrs. Oswald. I saw Robert in the police—at the police station, but he did not stay with us at the hotel.
Mr. Rankin. Now, the evening of November 22d, were you at Ruth Paine's house?
Mrs. Oswald. Yes.
Mr. Rankin. At that time did the reporters come there and the Life reporters, and ask you and your mother-in-law and Mrs. Paine about what had happened?
Mrs. Oswald. Yes.
Mr. Rankin. We have a report that there was quite a scene between Mrs. Paine and your mother-in-law at that time. Was there such an event?
Mrs. Oswald. I did not understand English too well, and I did not know what they were quarreling about. I know that the reporters wanted to talk to me, but his mother made a scene and went into hysterics, and said I should not talk and that she would not talk.
Mr. Rankin. Did she say why she would not talk?
Mrs. Oswald. Perhaps she said it in English. I didn't understand. She talked to the reporters.
Mr. Rankin. Did she say anything about being paid if she was going to tell any story?
Mrs. Oswald. She has a mania—only money, money, money.
Mr. Rankin. Did you understand that she was quarreling with Ruth Paine about something concerning the interview?
Mrs. Oswald. Yes. It appeared to be a quarrel, but what they quarreled about, I don't know.
Mr. Rankin. And after the quarrel, did you leave there?
Mrs. Oswald. I went to my room. But then I showed Lee's mother the photograph, where he is photographed with a rifle, and told her he had shot at Walker and it appeared he might have been shooting at the President. She said that I should hide that photograph and not show it to anyone.
On the next day I destroyed one photograph which I had. I think I had two small ones. When we were in the hotel I burned it.
Mr. Rankin. Did you say anything to her about the destruction of the photographs when she suggested that?
Mrs. Oswald. She saw it, while I was destroying them.
Mr. Rankin. After the assassination, did the police and FBI and the Secret Service ask you many questions?
Mrs. Oswald. In the police station there was a routine regular questioning, as always happens. And then after I was with the agents of the Secret Service and the FBI, they asked me many questions, of course—many questions. Sometimes the FBI agents asked me questions which had no bearing or relationship, and if I didn't want to answer they told me that if I wanted to live in this country, I would have to help in this matter, even though they were often irrelevant. That is the FBI.
Mr. Rankin. Do you know who said that to you?
Mrs. Oswald. Mr. Heitman and Bogoslav, who was an interpreter for the FBI.
Mr. Rankin. You understand that you do not have to tell this Commission in order to stay in this country, don't you, now?
Mrs. Oswald. Yes.
Mr. Rankin. You are not under any compulsion to tell
