Conversation with Lucifer. Elena Sidelnikova
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I am the beginning of the steps. The first step—both upward and downward.
But since there is no up or down, but rather a degree of separation from God, I am the beginning of separation from God, I am the first glimmer of God.
But does that mean that if a person returns to God, overcoming the boundaries of themselves, they will sooner or later come to you, as the first step of the Ladder of Separation?
Yes, you’ve understood correctly. That is exactly what happened to Jesus in the desert. He overcame the last—or rather, the first—step and reunited with God. He managed to overcome the illusion of separation and step into the infinity of himself.
So, it turns out you are not to blame for anything? What is guilt? The feeling that you have done something wrong, taken an incorrect action, so much so that you want to fix everything.
So—a feeling that I have taken an inexpedient action, since there is no right or wrong?
No, I didn’t take an inexpedient action, as it led to a new turn in the development of the universe.
But when everything started, I didn’t foresee to what extent the separation from God would reach and what it would lead to.
Isn’t the future known to you?
The future is multi-variant, and it is always in development.
When you plant a seed, you have a general idea of what kind of tree it will grow into. And the tree grows, putting down new roots and branches. But you cannot foresee the fate of every leaf. Some branches may wither or fail to develop, while others may grow excessively, reaching towards the Sun, and so on.
Tell me, is there love among the Dark ones, those who chose separation from God and descent down the Ladder of the Universe?
Love exists everywhere because it is the fundamental creative quality of God, the essence of His creative energy. But, descending down the Ladder of the Universe, this quality seems to weaken. It’s like a bright red color becoming dimmer, murkier, and paler. The further the degree of reflection and distortion, the less love there is as a creative energy.
But then how does the process of creation occur in the dark structures?
It is reversed, mirrored.
Creation above is expansion. Creation below is compression. Two mirror processes because compression is also expansion, but inward.
But more on that later, if you wish. There is still much for you to understand.
Part 4. Light and Darkness. The Illusions of God
Tell me, how did the division between light and dark occur? If each of us is merely a reflection of God, then why is there polarization and opposition?
The ocean is a very rich analogy. You are a drop in the ocean. And you, as a drop, make your own movements, that is, changes. The drop evaporates and rises into the sky. There it becomes part of a cloud, or a snowflake, or crystallizes back into a drop. But first, it becomes part of the cloud. The cloud is also part of the ocean. But the cloud is in the sky, and it contains many drops of the ocean. Then some of these drops, which have become part of the cloud, which is part of the ocean, turn into either snowflakes or back into drops and fall as snow or rain. But some snowflakes are scattered by the wind and carried far from the ocean. And there, uniting into streams, they always strive to return to the ocean, but their path is now long and winding.
And many times they will become clouds and pour down as precipitation, but sooner or later they will return to their source—the Ocean. And they will discover that the ocean is not just the sum of its drops, but something else, more complex. And it is possible to travel not only to the heavens as clouds but also within the ocean as currents. When they travel as drops, they seem freer, as it appears to them. And this path, of course, is more difficult. After all, the drop constantly needs to find its way home to the ocean. It is much easier to travel together with the currents in the ocean.
Rising up as vapor, a drop can become a snowflake. And by becoming a snowflake, it is more rigidly fixed in relation to the external environment. Indeed, you see the beautiful patterns of snowflakes. They are beautiful, but they are cold and seem different from the drop, although in essence they are the same. And you say they are different, not like you.
I think I understand your allegory. But still, what is Darkness?
And what is Light?
Light is the essence of God, that which He is made of.
Yes. Composed of. You do not see the movement of essence. God exists, and He is unknowable. Why? Because a part of God can only comprehend Him by ceasing to be a part. But by ceasing to be a part, it will stop the process of knowing, for there will be nothing to know. When it is God, it does not strive for knowledge, since it is already endowed with all the knowledge and qualities of God. But as soon as it separates as a part, it strives to realize itself as a part and understand its difference from God. But you can only understand your difference by understanding God Himself.
This is some kind of vicious circle.
A circle. You all try to comprehend God by going beyond your limits. By going beyond your limits, you come into contact with other parts of God and discover that they are also not God Himself, but parts of God. Other parts of God. Then you try either to unite with other parts of God or to fight with them, trying to prove that they are the wrong parts of God. And only a small part of you comes to the realization that to comprehend God, you do not need to go outside yourself, but you can comprehend God within yourself, since we are all parts of Him.
Yes, but if we are reflections of God, how can I comprehend God within myself if I am a reflection of His reflection and, as a reflection of reflections, distort His essence?
You can reflect back.
Reflect back? What does that mean?
Remember a sunbeam. You catch the sunlight with a mirror and reflect it onto a wall. Reflect it back onto the sun. Can you imagine the power of the reflected light? The principle of reflected light is the basis of all your most powerful lasers.
If you pass light through a magnifying lens, you can ignite what is nearby. Right now, you are like glass, letting the light pass through you and scattering it. But you can become a magnifying lens and ignite or burn something around you. Or you can become a mirror and reflect a new world from yourself. Do you understand?
Are you saying that everything happening in the world of humans and in the world of higher beings is just different ways of perceiving light? That is, some just scatter it, some use it to harm others, some reflect and build illusory worlds, and so on?
I am saying that you are stronger than God, but you do not realize it. What can Light alone do? It can just be, shine, reflect, and refract. But each prism can amplify or scatter this light and reflect it in its own way. It turns out that you control the Light, not the Light or Darkness controlling you, as you tend to believe.
The term "control" is perceived by us more as manipulation and carries a negative connotation.
Exactly. What is negative about the refraction of light? What is wrong or right about the colors of