I know we did handle the rifle and fired maybe target practice, something along that line. I don't recall of anything.
The second time that I now remember is during his stay after he returned from Russia, during his stay at my home in Fort Worth, that my wife and I and our children took him and his wife and child out to the farm to meet our in-laws, my in-laws, and also to do a little hunting while we was out there, and which we did just a very little bit. I believe this was on a Sunday afternoon and we didn't stay out very long.
Mr. Jenner. What weapons did you use on that occasion?
Mr. Oswald. On that occasion, I believe the same weapons we used before.
Mr. Jenner. Would that be true of all three occasions?
Mr. Oswald. I believe on the first occasion, which was the occasion that Lee came home on leave, that at that time I only owned one .22 rifle.
Mr. Jenner. Was that the semiautomatic?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; it was not the semiautomatic, it was a bolt action rifle, with a clip on it. However, I believe Lee either used my brother-in-law's rifle——
Mr. Jenner. Was that a bolt-action rifle?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; it is a bolt-action rifle. He either used that rifle or a single-shot, bolt-action rifle, another .22 that was out at the farm.
Mr. Jenner. On the occasion during which you went hunting during that 3-day period, interregnum his return and his discharge and his departure for New Orleans, was the weapon he employed a bolt-action weapon?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; it was.
Mr. Jenner. Is it a fair statement on my part that on all the occasions that you recall hunting with Lee he employed a bolt-action rifle?
Mr. Oswald. That is correct, sir.
Mr. Jenner. During your youth and prior to these occasions about which you testified, do you know of the fact or know by rumor or otherwise that your brother engaged in this light hunting or other kind of hunting where he used a firearm even though he was not with you or you did not accompany him?
Mr. Oswald. I feel surely that he did, without recalling any particular time that he told me, but his interest along that line was generally like mine, that is hunting and fishing, and I am sure when he had an opportunity to hunt that he did do so.
Mr. Dulles. Did he ever tell you about hunting in Russia?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; he did.
Mr. Jenner. Would you relate that, please, tell us when the conversation took place and the circumstances, if it was a conversation?
Mr. Oswald. The circumstances was it was in a letter I received from him.
Mr. Jenner. Is that one of the letters you produced?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; it is.
Mr. Jenner. Did you have any conversation with him in addition to the letter, apart from the letter?
Mr. Oswald. I believe I did along that line because as I stated our interests in hunting and fishing was mutual and he did state that he was able to——
Mr. Jenner. In response to Mr. Dulles' question, would you give the conversation? We will take care of the letter in the morning.
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I am trying to give the conversation.
Mr. Jenner. Thank you. Proceed.
Mr. Oswald. That we talked about hunting over there, and he said that he had only been hunting a half dozen times, and so forth, and that he had only used a shotgun, and a couple of times he did shoot a duck.
Mr. Jenner. It was all shotgun shooting, no rifle shooting?
Mr. Oswald. No rifle shooting, no sir. That is all they were allowed to have, the shotgun.
Mr. Jenner. This conversation took place, as I understand it, on his return from Russia when he was living with you for that month, that would be June-July of 1962?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; that is correct.
Mr. Jenner. And that is the extent of the conversation?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; that is.
Mr. Jenner. As you now recall it—there have been some reports, and they are only reports as far as we of the staff are concerned, of speculation about a television set, whether your brother purchased or owned a television set and whether he purchased it outright or on time with a guarantee from you.
What information or knowledge do you have in that connection?
Mr. Oswald. I am not aware that he purchased a television set, sir. I did at his request, when he and Marina and the baby were living in Fort Worth.
Mr. Jenner. Where in Fort Worth?
Mr. Oswald. Mercedes Street in Fort Worth, in a small duplex which was——
Mr. Jenner. Can you fix even more definitely the time of this event?
Mr. Oswald. This was approximately the latter part of September, 1962. And at his request——
Mr. Jenner. He came to you, excuse me.
Mr. Oswald. He called me, sir.
Mr. Jenner. He called you by telephone?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; he called me at my office from his place of employment in Fort Worth at that time.
Mr. Jenner. Give us the substance of what he said.
Mr. Oswald. We talked briefly about how each family was doing, and so forth, and he said that he would like to establish credit and he had tried to charge something at Montgomery Ward's at Fort Worth, the West 7th Street store, and they had stated that he needed to have somebody cosign or vouch for him, and this was his request to me, and I said gladly I would do so, and late that afternoon after work, this was approximately 5:30 by the time I arrived at Montgomery Ward, I did sign for Lee's charge account. However, I was not aware of what he was charging.
Mr. Jenner. There was no discussion, I take it, at that time of what—the use to which he intended to put his credit?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I believe perhaps he did mention something about a baby chair and a baby bed.
Mr. Jenner. Was there ever any discussion between you about his purchase or acquisition of a television set?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; there was not.
Mr. Jenner. Were you ever in his home or apartment?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; I was.
Mr. Jenner. Did you see a television set there?
Mr. Oswald. Pardon me, you are referring to the apartment on Mercedes Street, is that correct?
Mr. Jenner. Yes.
Mr. Oswald. Yes, I was in his home quite a few times and there
