time I was aware of this incident was at Mr. Jim H. Martin's home in Dallas, Tex.
Mr. Jenner. On what day?
Mr. Oswald. On Sunday, January 13, 1964.
Mr. Jenner. What was the occasion for your being there?
Mr. Oswald. To visit with Marina, and to take her to the cemetery.
Mr. Jenner. You entered the home?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner. Was your wife, Mrs. Oswald, with you?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; she was.
Mr. Jenner. Your children?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; they were.
Mr. Jenner. You entered the home, and who was there?
Mr. Oswald. Mr. and Mrs. James H. Martin, I believe their children were also present, and in the living room of their home there was two Secret Service agents, or one Secret Service agent, and two Dallas police officers.
Mr. Jenner. Are you able to identify any of those four men?
Do you recall any of them at the moment?
Mr. Oswald. I believe, sir, that one of the Secret Service agents, if he was either the only one there, or two of them were there, the one that I do recall, Mr. Bob Jameson or Jimson, of the Dallas office—the U.S. Secret Service office in Dallas.
Mr. Jenner. Now, to what Richard M. Nixon did the initials "NMR" as you have placed them in this note refer?
Mr. Oswald. To the past Vice President of the United States.
Mr. Jenner. Now, proceed to tell us about how the circumstance arose, your first conversation of it, your first notice of it.
Mr. Oswald. I was talking with Mr. Jim Martin about various other matters.
Mr. Jenner. Excuse me, sir. Where were you in talking to Mr. Jim Martin?
Mr. Oswald. I was in the den of his home, sitting on a sofa.
Mr. Jenner. And who was present?
Mr. Oswald. Jim Martin and I were sitting on the sofa, and I believe my wife and his wife were at the end of the den in the kitchen part of it, standing by the sink.
Mr. Jenner. What is the distance between yourselves sitting on the sofa and the others?
Mr. Oswald. I would say approximately 12 or 15 feet, sir.
Mr. Jenner. And was there a doorway, was it open?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; it is an open room.
Mr. Jenner. So you were all in the same room—one section of it you describe as a den?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner. And the other section consists of what?
Mr. Oswald. The kitchen, the sink, refrigerator, a washing machine, built-in oven and range.
Mr. Jenner. All right. Proceed.
Mr. Oswald. We discussed other matters. I do not recall what they were. Just talking to him about how Marina was doing and so forth, and any other thing that we might be talking about in general, small talk. And we finally—he finally brought up this question.
Mr. Jenner. What did he say and how did he approach it? Reproduce it as best you can, sir.
Mr. Oswald. I believe he moved very close to me. I was turned towards him. He was to my left. I might say at this time that the women at the sink would be on my far right, behind me generally. And he related to me——
Mr. Jenner. What did he say?
Mr. Oswald. This incident, that Marina had told him that on a day still not identified to me, that he, Lee Harvey Oswald, had the intention to shoot Mr. Richard M. Nixon, and that Marina N. Oswald had locked Lee in the bathroom for the entire day. And that was the text to my best remembrance—that was everything that was said from him.
Mr. Jenner. Have you now exhausted your recollection?
Mr. Oswald. Of Mr. Martin's conversation to me?
Mr. Jenner. Yes.
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; I have.
Mr. Jenner. Did he say how he had come about this information?
Mr. Oswald. No, other than he had a conversation with Marina N. Oswald.
Mr. Jenner. And he was relating to you a conversation he had had with her?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner. Did he say that she had reported this to him?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; he did.
Mr. Jenner. Did you inquire of him as to why this had not been disclosed to you before?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I did not.
Mr. Jenner. Did you ask any questions of him in that connection?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I did not.
I might add that my reaction at that time was that I was rather speechless. I believe I just shook my head in utter disbelief to what I was hearing.
Mr. Jenner. Did Mr. Martin relate to you when Marina had told him this story?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; not to my recollection.
Mr. Jenner. Did you question him with respect to that?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I did not.
Mr. Jenner. Did you make any effort to fix the time when the event in question had taken place?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; in my own mind I did.
Mr. Jenner. You didn't question Mr. Martin about it, however?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I did not.
Mr. Dulles. At this time, did you know of the rumors with regard to the attack on General Walker or not?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; I did. And I refer, again, to the entry on January 13, 1964, and the statement that Jim advised that Marina told him that Lee wanted to "blank NMR, also." And by that "also" I was aware of the attempt on General Walker's life.
Mr. Jenner. Was anything said during the course of your conversation with Mr. Martin in the den with respect to the information you had that an attempt had been made by your brother on the life of General Walker?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir, not at this conversation, it was not.
Mr. Jenner. Did you ever talk to Mr. Martin at any time subsequent to this, with respect to this event?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir—preceding
