Lee, or about my brother, and that I was to do just anything that I deemed necessary and not worry about the office.
And he did inform me at the latter part of this conversation that the FBI had called the Fort Worth general office in an attempt to talk to me or to locate me.
Mr. Jenner. Was any suggestion made by him at that time that you get in touch with the Fort Worth Office of the FBI?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I advised him that I would contact the FBI upon completion of our conversation.
Mr. Jenner. And you did so?
Mr. Oswald. I did so.
Mr. Jenner. And a reference to that——
Mr. Dulles. By telephone?
Mr. Oswald. That is right.
Mr. Jenner. A reference to that appears on page 4 of your memorandum.
Mr. Oswald. That is right.
Mr. Jenner. I won't go into that interview. But on that occasion, and all other occasions when you had interviews with, or were interviewed either by the FBI or Secret Service, you related the whole truth and nothing but the truth to the best of your knowledge and information at the time you were being interviewed?
Mr. Oswald. That is right.
Mr. Jenner. At this moment, had you contacted anyone other than those you have now mentioned?
Up to this point of the sequence of events?
Mr. Oswald. May I qualify that question—outside of my office in Denton, Tex., sir.
Mr. Jenner. The office in Denton, Tex., the call to your mother, the call to Mrs. Oswald, your wife Vada, the call to the FBI office.
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I did not.
Mr. Jenner. Are all of the contacts that you had and all of the occasions of interviews during the period November 22, 1963, through the following week, November 25, recorded in your memorandum?
Mr. Dulles. I wonder if to save time we could ask him to review that memorandum and to report if he finds that there are other calls that were made.
Mr. Jenner. Will that be acceptable to you, Mr. McKenzie?
Mr. McKenzie. Fine.
Mr Dulles, it is a quarter of one. Being as how it is a quarter of one, I know you have a luncheon meeting to go to. Our plane does not leave until 5 o'clock. We have to leave here no later than 3:30. We will be glad to have lunch and come back, if it would suit your convenience.
Mr. Jenner. There are a couple of things, in the interests really of Mr. Oswald, that have turned up, when I studied the memorandum last night, that I am sure Mr. McKenzie would like to have.
Mr. Dulles. Yes; I would like to give Mr. McKenzie plenty of time.
If the car is there, I can wait another 5 or 10 minutes. But I think that it would be better if I were to come back.
We will recess at this time until 2 p.m.
(Whereupon, at 12:45 p.m., the President's Commission recessed.)
Afternoon Session
TESTIMONY OF ROBERT EDWARD LEE OSWALD RESUMED
The President's Commission reconvened at 2:30 p.m.
Mr. Dulles. The Commission will come to order.
Mr. Jenner. Returning to page 1 of your memorandum, as I recall your recording of the events of that day, November 22, 1963, you first learned of the assassination or attempted assassination as of that moment of President Kennedy while you were at lunch with some fellow workers.
Mr. Oswald. That is correct.
Mr. Jenner. And would you identify those fellow workers, please?
Mr. Oswald. If I might——
Mr. McKenzie. I ask you to withdraw that.
Mr. Jenner. All right. You don't like the expression "fellow workers"?
Mr. Dulles. You object to the whole question, or just the way it was phrased?
Mr. McKenzie. Let's rephrase it, Mr. Dulles, if I may, please.
Mr. Jenner. I will yield to you, Mr. McKenzie. Fellow employees.
Mr. McKenzie. That is fine.
Mr. Jenner. You were at lunch with fellow employees of Acme Brick Co.?
Mr. Oswald. That is correct.
Mr. Jenner. Would you please identify those gentlemen?
Mr. Oswald. They are Mr. Bill Darwin, the director of marketing of the Acme Brick Co., Mr. Burnett Henry, director of plants and transportation of the Acme Brick Co., Mr. Bob Oech, who is the Texas division plant manager.
Mr. Jenner. Of Acme Brick Co.?
Mr. Oswald. Of Acme Brick Co.
And Mr. Bud Adams, who is the plant manager of both the old and new Denton plants.
Mr. Jenner. And it was at this time and on this occasion at lunchtime that you first heard any intimation or otherwise of the assassination or attempted assassination of President Kennedy?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir. At the completion of our lunch, as we were departing from the restaurant, as noted in my memorandum, page 1.
Mr. Jenner. Now, you speak on that page of driving in an automobile, either all or some of you gentlemen.
Whose automobile was that?
Mr. Oswald. All of us were in one automobile, and we were in Mr. Burnett Henry's automobile.
Mr. Jenner. And I take it—did the automobile have a radio in it?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; it did.
Mr. Jenner. And did you gentlemen have the radio in operation?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; we did.
Mr. Jenner. And listening to it?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; we were.
Mr. Jenner. Were you listening to anything in particular?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner. What?
Mr. Oswald. We were listening to a newscast of the events that had already taken place in Dallas, Tex., at approximately 12:30 that afternoon.
Mr. Jenner. And you record the time in your notebook?
Mr.
