there was an interview.
Mr. Jenner. Would you please tell us about that, and when it occurred?
Mr. Oswald. This interview occurred approximately Wednesday night, November 27, 1963.
Mr. Jenner. Where?
Mr. Oswald. At the Inn of the Six Flags, at which time the FBI agents and Mr. Tom Kelley, of the United States Secret Service, left the room that we had been staying in with Marina Oswald and went to the adjoining set of rooms that was located, of course, right next to the room we had been staying, and commenced an interview. It is my understanding that Mr. Kelley was not present at this interview.
However, he was in the adjoining room to that set of rooms, and that he was not permitted to be within the immediate interviewing area.
I do not recall the exact length of this interview. But as the night progressed, it became at least apparent to me that due to the state of Marina Oswald at that time, considering all the things that had occurred, and the difficulty that she was having producing enough milk for the baby Rachel, that they were extremely disregarding her own personal welfare at this time.
And I did go to the adjoining rooms, and I believe Mr. Kelley opened the door. And at that time I related to him that the babies had awakened, and that they needed their mother, Marina Oswald.
He immediately informed the interviewers in the next room. And as my memory serves me, Mr. Kelley turned to me and stated he was glad I did that, and I stated to him that the babies were still asleep, and I did it on the very purpose of stopping the interview, too, to the length and the nature of Marina's welfare, and to the extent that that was quite late at night.
Mr. Dulles. Were you present during the whole interview?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I was not. I was in the adjoining rooms, keeping an eye just in case the babies did wake and so forth.
Mr. Dulles. Was there an interpreter present at that time?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir.
Mr. Dulles. Was that FBI or Secret Service interpreter?
Mr. Oswald. To the best of my memory, sir, that was Mr. Lee Gopadze of the United States Secret Service.
Mr. McKenzie. Mr. Gopadze was participating in the interview?
Mr. Oswald. That is right.
Mr. Dulles. But only as interpreter.
Mr. Oswald. That is right.
Mr. Jenner. Do you have an opinion as to whether Marina was or is involved in any plot or conspiracy in connection with this affair?
Mr. Oswald. May I have the first part of that question again?
(The reporter read the question.)
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I do not.
Mr. Jenner. Do you have an opinion to the contrary?
That is, that she is not?
Mr. Oswald. I am of the opinion, sir, that she is not involved in any conspiracy or was involved in any way with the event that took place on November 22, 1963.
Mr. Jenner. Thank you.
Mr. Dulles. Could I ask a question there?
Do you have any opinion as to whether any American security service, Secret Service, FBI, CIA, were in any way involved in any conspiracy or plot or otherwise involved in this whole affair?
Mr. Oswald. Sir, you are asking me of my opinion?
Mr. Dulles. Only your opinion, yes—obviously if you have information or any evidence we would like to have it.
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I do not have any evidence or information along that line. I do have an opinion, sir, qualified to this extent. That it is very difficult for me to feel that Lee Harvey Oswald acted entirely on his own without any assistance whatsoever.
Now, whether this assistance was from my—from any member of any government agency, or just individuals, I do not know. I do feel like he had assistance of one nature or another, sir.
Mr. McKenzie. Robert, that does not answer Mr. Dulles' question. And I want you to answer his question fully.
Mr. Dulles. My question was really directed toward any security agency of the United States Government.
Mr. McKenzie. If I may state your question, Mr. Dulles, to Mr. Oswald—his question was whether or not any security agency of the United States Government, whether it be the FBI, the Secret Service, the CIA, or any Government agency, had any part in a conspiracy or plot dealing with the events of November 22, and what your opinion is concerning the same.
Mr. Dulles. That is correctly stated.
Mr. Oswald. All right.
I would correct my answer to this extent, sir. I would be of the opinion that no agency of the United States Government was in any way involved with the assassination of the President of the United States on November 22, 1963.
Does that answer the question?
Mr. Jenner. Or in any way involved with your brother's, Lee Harvey Oswald. Would you go that far?
Mr. Oswald. When we say involved, sir—excluding the interviews that I am aware of and so forth. Yes, sir; I would be of that opinion.
Mr. Dulles. To which you have testified with regard to the FBI and the Immigration and Naturalization.
Mr. Oswald. That is right.
Mr. Jenner. Would you elaborate further, please, when you first undertook to answer Mr. Dulles question—you made some references to an opinion on your part that your brother, Lee Harvey Oswald, must have had some assistance.
Would you please state what you had in mind there? Assistance with what, sir?
Mr. Oswald. My opinion on that, sir, would be that, concluding that Lee Harvey Oswald did actually shoot the President of the United States and Governor Connally of Texas on November 22, 1963—I do feel that he did have assistance to the extent that perhaps some money was given to him, and that other types of assistance, such as perhaps training and orientations as to perhaps the method to be used.
I believe that would conclude my opinion on the assistance I had reference to.
Mr. Jenner. This is based, I gather from what you have just said, on the assumption or opinion—I will say assumption first—that your brother Lee Harvey Oswald did assassinate President Kennedy?
Mr. Oswald. That is right.
Mr. Jenner. And do you have that opinion?
Mr. Oswald. That he did assassinate the President of the United States?
Mr. Jenner. Yes.
Mr. Oswald. On his own, sir?
Mr. Dulles. Did he handle the gun and shoot the shots?
Mr.
