any statement to the press at any time?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I have not.
Mr. McKenzie. Do you recall any statements made by Marina N. Oswald expressing sympathy for President's family?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; I do.
Mr. McKenzie. And if you will, state the source of your recollection and where the statement was made, and if she has ever made any statement to that effect to yourself.
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; she did make a statement directly to myself. To the best of my recollection, this was first done on Monday, November 25, 1963, at the Inn of the Six Flags, at Arlington, Tex., as Marina and myself observed the beginning of the funeral for the President of the United States.
Mr. McKenzie. And was there anyone else present at that time?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; there were other people in the room. Whether or not they overheard our conversation, I do not know, sir.
Mr. Dulles. You observed that on television, I gather?
Mr. Oswald. That is correct.
Mr. McKenzie. Were there any Secret Service agents there at that time?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir.
Mr. McKenzie. Were they in the room with you and Marina Oswald?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; they were.
Mr. McKenzie. And did they overhear any expressions of sympathy which she might have said?
Mr. Oswald. It is possible that they did, sir.
Mr. McKenzie. Have you ever testified in a lawsuit or given a deposition before a court reporter prior to your appearance before this Commission?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I have not.
Mr. McKenzie. Now, you have testified that you have not given any statements to the press other than the statement to the effect that you would abide with and be satisfied with the report of this Commission.
Since arriving in Washington, and since you have been sworn under oath before the Commission, have you given any statement to the press, other than saying goodnight, or good afternoon, or good morning?
Mr. Oswald. I believe at one time I did say thank you. Other than that, sir, I have not.
Mr. McKenzie. Now, have you read an article here in the New York Times of Saturday, February 22, 1964, on page 22 of the first section, entitled, "Russian training of Oswald hinted"?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; I have.
Mr. McKenzie. Do you know Mr. Anthony Lewis?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I do not.
Mr. McKenzie. All right, sir.
Have you ever talked with Mr. Lewis?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; not to my knowledge.
Mr. McKenzie. Now, you have testified this afternoon following our lunch break that you visited Lee Oswald in the Dallas County Jail. Do you recall that testimony—the testimony of just a few minutes ago?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; I do.
Mr. McKenzie. Have you previously testified to that before the Commission, to your recollection?
Mr. Oswald. To my recollection, I believe we at least touched on that during our first session on February 20, 1963.
Mr. McKenzie. When you were in the jail—and I believe it is in the sixth floor of the Dallas County Jail—I mean the Dallas City Jail—talking with your brother, Lee Harvey Oswald, did you ask him at that time if he had committed the crime?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; I had.
Mr. McKenzie. You did ask him that question?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; I did.
Mr. McKenzie. And what did he say?
Mr. Oswald. I put it to him as stated in my diary, sir.
Mr. Jenner. Identify the page, please.
Mr. Oswald. On page 12, "I do not recall everything he said. I did try to point out to him that the evidence was overwhelming that he did kill Police Officer Tippit and possibly the President. To this he replied 'do not form any opinion on the so-called evidence.'"
Mr. Jenner. Is that all he said? He said nothing else?
Mr. Oswald. To that——
Mr. Jenner. In response to you?
Mr. Oswald. That is correct.
Mr. Jenner. At no time when you interviewed him over the telephone while you were in that—the sixth floor—did he affirmatively deny either that he had shot Officer Tippit or that he shot the President?
Mr. Oswald. He did not admit to anything whatsoever.
Mr. Jenner. Nor did he deny it affirmatively—other than the remark that you have recorded in your memorandum?
Mr. Oswald. That is correct, sir.
Mr. McKenzie. In other words, Mr. Oswald, when you were talking there with your brother, in the city jail of Dallas, he did not deny that he had killed Officer Tippit, nor did he deny that he had assassinated President Kennedy?
Mr. Oswald. He did not admit to anything, sir.
Mr. McKenzie. And he didn't deny anything?
Mr. Oswald. That is correct.
Mr. McKenzie. Have you, or haven't you told this Commission that you believed a denial?
Mr. Jenner. Excuse me, Mr. McKenzie, I don't understand that question.
Mr. McKenzie. It says in this article that he told the Commission that he believed the denial.
Since there was no denial, there was nothing for you to believe.
Mr. Oswald. That is correct.
Mr. Jenner. Up to this moment he has never testified as to that, to my recollection.
Mr. McKenzie. That is correct.
Again, based on the evidence that you have read or heard in newspaper articles, whether it be evidence or not, but based on everything that you have heard or read, you now believe that your brother, Lee Harvey Oswald, did kill Mr. Tippit and assassinated President Kennedy, is that correct?
Mr. Oswald. Purely on the circumstantial evidence that has been brought to my attention or that I have read.
Mr. McKenzie. I believe that is all, Mr. Chairman.
Mr. Jenner. May I ask one question?
Mr. Oswald, until this afternoon, when you recalled orally here the circumstances and the event of your discussion
