Mr. Martin. Either the 5th or the 6th.
Mr. Rankin. Now, before that contract was executed did you discuss it with Mr. Thorne?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Rankin. Was Marina present when you did?
Mr. Martin. I don't believe so.
Mr. Rankin. Where did this discussion occur?
Mr. Martin. I believe it was at the Inn.
Mr. Rankin. Your office?
Mr. Martin. No, in the coffee shoppe.
Mr. Rankin. Who else was present.
Mr. Martin. No one.
Mr. Rankin. Did you then go over the terms of the contract with him?
Mr. Martin. No. I think I left that up to him.
Mr. Rankin. Were you then the manager of Marina's affairs?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Rankin. Who were you acting for in regard to that arrangement?
Mr. Martin. Well, acting for Marina although I had no—I had no contract to that effect.
Mr. Rankin. You were still acting under this suggestion by Mr. Gopadze that some counsel be gotten for her?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Rankin. And you did go over the terms of this contract at that time, did you?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Rankin. Did you make any suggestions for changes?
Mr. Martin. That we delete it, on my contract, we deleted any gifts or contributions.
Mr. Rankin. That is on the draft of the contract for you to act as manager?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Rankin. And when did that idea of your acting as manager come up?
Mr. Martin. Well, I believe it was the same day that John Thorne came out to talk to Marina and to Gopadze.
Mr. Rankin. Do you know who brought it up?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Rankin. Did you suggest that you act as manager?
Mr. Martin. I don't believe I suggested it. We were discussing the need for a manager, and I don't know who brought it up as far as my being the one.
Mr. Rankin. At that time was there any discussion about what compensation you would have?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Rankin. When you were talking to Mr. Thorne in the coffee shoppe was there a discussion about how much compensation he would receive for acting as attorney?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Rankin. What was said about that?
Mr. Martin. Well, just that it would be 10 percent.
Mr. Rankin. Had you ever discussed that before with him?
Mr. Martin. Not that I recall.
(At this point, Senator Cooper entered the hearing room.)
Mr. Dulles. Senator, we welcome you.
Senator Cooper. Thank you.
Mr. Dulles. Would you proceed? Would you just resume for a moment where we are in the proceedings?
Mr. Rankin. We are discussing the contract between Mr. Martin and Marina and also how Mr. Thorne became counsel under the contracts that were made.
Senator Cooper. Yes.
Mr. Rankin. This 10-percent figure for John Thorne and the contract with regard to his appointment then was his suggestion so far as you know?
Mr. Martin. As far as I know. I think we had discussed it.
Mr. Rankin. You had discussed it?
Mr. Martin. I don't know exactly how we came to these figures as far as that is concerned.
Mr. Rankin. But you think you had discussed it before the meeting at the coffee shoppe that you described?
Mr. Martin. Probably so.
Mr. Rankin. Did you suggest the amount?
Mr. Martin. I don't know.
Mr. Rankin. You don't recall whether you did or he did?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Rankin. Did you talk that over with Marina?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Rankin. Who was present at that time?
Mr. Martin. I believe Lee Gopadze.
Mr. Rankin. Anyone else?
Mr. Martin. Well, there were several times we discussed it with Marina. One time Robert was there. He read the contracts. Let's see, he usually came in on Sunday so he read the contracts more at length.
Mr. Rankin. Did Robert come in before or after your conversation in the coffee shoppe that you referred to?
Mr. Martin. I believe after.
Mr. Rankin. After you had the conversation in the coffee shoppe with Mr. Thorne, did you make any changes in the draft of the contract.
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Leech. Excuse me, what contract are you talking about?
Mr. Rankin. Thorne contract.
Were you referring to the Thorne contract?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Rankin. What changes did you make at that time?
Mr. Martin. We deleted gifts, contributions. He used a standard contractual form, and in that contractual form it includes gifts and contributions, and we deleted those.
Mr. Rankin. I hand you Exhibit No. 279 and ask you if that is a photostat copy of the contract you have been referring to?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Rankin. And it has stricken out the words that you have just described with regard to donations and gifts?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Rankin. It does give him an interest in collections, trust funds and bequests, according to the language of this Exhibit No. 279.
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