they share the elevation of the higher soul on a subconscious level. It cannot be otherwise – they are one being, and so there is some consolation in that the two halves of the soul are rarely apart for too long. It is unusual for one half to incarnate …and incarnate …and incarnate when the other half has learnt to elevate itself.
There is also that allowance, because of the goodness and Love of God, for the soul in the higher realms to stay close to the lower realms or Earth plane, and attempt to donate learning and experience to its other half so that the other half becomes more aware of its spiritual self in a contracted amount of time.
As for the heartbreak and millions of years …‘millions of years’ is a concept that I hope we have explained fully in the books that have gone before this one. In other words, ‘millions of years’ is your concept; ‘millions of years’ is an effect of the Fall that embraces you and plunges you into what you consider to be linear time but is no such thing. And so, from the point of view of the soul on the other side, time passes at a different rate, and there is always the ability to unite with the other half of the soul during the dream-time or relaxing times of the soul still encased in matter. The separation is actually harder on the soul encased in matter than it is on the soul that is elevated away from that matter because the elevated soul can see the progress being made, knows that there is escape from the effects of the Fall, knows that the link with its other half can never be broken and knows that eventually that soul will come out into the Light. So, it is a different viewpoint.
It is a good question because it illustrates the two viewpoints, and you can say to the people who are suffering on Earth at this time, thinking they are lonely or that life is stacked against them that, in effect, they have another half …maybe that half is with them on Earth or maybe it is in the spiritual realms… but that other half is bathed in glory (as are they at core), and inevitably one day they will reunite. Inevitably! And so, in the darkest times of the souls on Earth who are suffering, there is something to look forward to because the suffering that is an illusion will eventually pass away, and they will inevitably be reunited with their other half. They will be reinvested with their spiritual values and abilities, and then they will move on as one back through those concentric circles to the point that is God …and will be brought out again into more glorious realms of physicality and creativity together. Does that answer your question?
Jane: That’s wonderful! Thank you.
Tony: My earlier experience on this Earth was in running and building businesses, and the process involved in making adjustments according to market information so that, if something wasn’t working in a particular area, we could be flexible and move the business to more appropriate areas in which to succeed. I understand that we are here now working our way back to God and the experiences we have (which is the important part of us being here) are what we take back to God. From what you are saying, Joseph, the Godhead gains experience from millions and millions of us taking our experiences back to Him so that He can learn. What happens with all that information at the Godhead? If it’s not working for people caught in the effects of the Fall, and if that is the experience of the majority of people coming back to the Godhead, is it feasible that the rules can be changed at a higher level to make the journey more successful and productive for us?
Joseph: There are things to consider here. You talk of the millions of souls going back to the Godhead, but what you have to remember is that there are billions and billions and billions of other souls outside the experience of the Fall that are returning to the Godhead in the normal course of events and according to God’s law and God’s will. So, to offset this tiny corner of creativity in the universe, there is a returning to God constantly of the experiences that those souls and the Godhead want.
I think this question illuminates the seriousness of the effects of the Fall – in that it illustrates how this one small corner has taken a step that has taken itself ‘out of step’ with the normal course of events. God’s universe (as we have said previously) runs entirely through free will. The actions of His children are all free-will actions. God cannot restrict part of Himself (as we have also mentioned before). In the case of the Fall, through free will, those souls involved (albeit through thinking initially that their actions would result in a ‘shining jewel’ to bring back to God) divorced themselves from the normal course of events. It is free will that holds those souls on such an uneasy path …just as it will be free will that eventually brings them back onto the path that billions and billions of other souls travel.
God is free will. It is not a gift to His children – it is simply a part of Himself. So, it is not that He can change a rule; it is that He cannot change what He is. He is free will and, therefore, each of the souls within the Fall, are free will too. So, they are still operating within God’s plan for His children …it is just that they have used that free will to put up ‘a wall’.
You are correct in saying that, if something doesn’t work in the business world, you revert to plan ‘B’ or plan ‘C’. You look at it in a different way, and that, in effect, is what God is waiting for the souls entrapped in the effects of the Fall to do …to revert to plan ‘B’ …to look back and say: ’This isn’t working! I’m going to leave it. I am not going to invest any more time, effort or creativity into it.’
And, at that point there is an option, but the option has to be created by the souls that are, at this point, trapped within the effects of the Fall. It is exactly the same process – as you would expect it to be – because, in business dealings or whatever a soul chooses to do in life, they are drawing on God-power. The way things come to them and stack up as a ‘plan’ for them is based on God-power. That God-power, in many, many cases, is then perverted by the wills and actions of the souls trapped within the Fall …but the basic plan is God-power. So, if you look at any creative endeavour within the effects of the Fall, it is based on God-power. It cannot be based on anything else because ultimately there is nothing else. But, then it is coloured, built upon and distorted by the effects of the Fall and by the insistence of the spirit drawing on that original concept of being right: ‘I am right. Therefore, this is still the way to go. This is still the business plan that needs to be adhered to!’ …even though, clearly, it isn’t working. Do you see that?
Tony: I do. Thank you very much.
Joseph: This is where heartbreak comes in because, if you see your brother faltering and see a different way (which we have been able to see because the scales have fallen from our eyes through our own endeavours) then you wish to stand on a mountain, bang a drum and say,’ There is another way!’ And the fact that we can only do this slowly is heart-breaking. The fact that we can give this information out and yet have so many so immersed in the physical that they ignore it is heart-breaking. But, what is ‘illuminating’ (and I use that word carefully) is the effect of the people who do read the information, absorb it and remember it because they then become a point of Light. And a point of Light shines into other people’s lives and illuminates what is right and what is wrong with those lives and the need for change.
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At a low ebb, I am afraid, David. …I must ask you for a question. We must start this new book with each of us asking something…
David: I was just going to follow on from what you said, and ask about people shedding Light on others and the amounts of Light they actually bring through compared with people who don’t shed Light… i.e. you said in an earlier session that one person transmitting Light counters the darkness of a thousand who are not. Is that the case?
Joseph: It is entirely the case. I wish I could bring through an illustration of it, but maybe if I put it in these terms: You are God. Each soul is God …a portion of God, yes, but also God. When you talk to the Father and when you pray, in effect, you are praying to yourself. God’s creativity is infinite. God’s ability
