Jenner. Was anything said about what your brother Lee was doing by way of employment in Dallas?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; there was.
Mr. Jenner. What was said, and by whom?
Mr. Oswald. I feel like I had asked Lee what he was doing at that particular time, and his reply to me was that he was working for a traffic outfit in Dallas, the name of which I do not recall. However, he did state the name of the firm. I do not recall the name of the firm. And that it was to him very interesting work. He thought that he could perhaps learn this type of work and progress in it quite ably.
Mr. Dulles. How did he appear to you mentally and physically on this occasion of the Thanksgiving dinner?
Mr. Oswald. Very fit physically and very alert mentally.
Mr. Jenner. Discussion on that day occurred between you and your half-brother, John Pic, did it not, respecting your brother Lee's un-American beliefs?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; it did.
Mr. Jenner. Would you relate that discussion between yourself—was it confined to a discussion between yourself and John Pic?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; it was.
Mr. Jenner. Did you raise the subject?
Mr. Oswald. I believe I did, sir.
Mr. Jenner. You were concerned about his un-American beliefs, were you not?
Mr. Oswald. I was not concerned about them. I wanted to state to John, since he had not been in contact with Lee when Lee was in Russia, or when he was at my home in Fort Worth, that this conversation took place.
Mr. Jenner. You state it.
Mr. Dulles. Was John present?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir.
Mr. Dulles. He was present.
Mr. McKenzie. It was to John.
Mr. Dulles. Was he present?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; he was not. I was about to say that this conversation took place on our way from my house to the bus station to pick up Lee, Marina and June the morning of Thanksgiving 1962. I do not recall the circumstances preceding this particular point of why I brought it up other than I do recall mentioning that the FBI had talked to Lee and apparently that everything was all right because they were not proceeding to discuss with him at any length and they were not holding him for any reason, so I assumed that everything was all right in that respect.
Mr. Jenner. I see.
Have you exhausted your present recollection of that conversation?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; I have.
Mr. Dulles. How did you know that the FBI had talked with Lee?
Mr. Oswald. Lee had told me and I was aware that they had called my house and requested Lee to come down to their office in Fort Worth and talk with them.
Mr. Dulles. Did he report to you on that conversation at all? The details of it?
Mr. Oswald. A very small detail of it, sir.
Mr. Jenner. What details?
Mr. Oswald. I asked him when I returned home from work that afternoon how did it go. He said, "Just fine." He said they asked him at the last whether or not he was an agent for the United States Government. His reply was "Don't you know?"
Mr. Jenner. You recited that yesterday.
Mr. McKenzie. This was testified to yesterday. It is repetition.
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner. Did you at that time say to John that the FBI had—excuse me—had assured you that Lee was all right and not dangerous to our country?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I had not.
Mr. Jenner. Did you say to John on that occasion or any other occasion that he need not worry about Lee in connection with possible danger to our country?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; I did.
Mr. Jenner. When was that?
Mr. Oswald. This was on the same occasion on the trip to the bus station as I have so indicated, that I had assumed, since they were not holding Lee or questioning him to any frequency, because at that time they had only questioned him to my knowledge one time, that everything as far as un-American views that he expressed when he went to Russia, everything was cleared and they had no reason to hold him or suspect him of anything.
Mr. Dulles. Did you know about the Fair Play for Cuba incident in New Orleans at this time?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I did not.
Mr. Jenner. Did your brother Lee and Marina leave your home after Thanksgiving dinner?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir; they did.
Mr. Jenner. That same day?
Mr. Oswald. Yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner. Did you have occasion to see your brother at any time from that moment when he departed until sometime on the 22d of November 1963?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I did not.
Mr. McKenzie. Mr. Jenner, may I interrupt you one more time?
In response to your question, Mr. Chairman, it is my best recollection, and I may be wrong and stand to be corrected if I am wrong, that the Fair Play for Cuba or the pro-Castro leaflets that he was handing out in New Orleans was in the summer of 1963.
Mr. Dulles. I think you may be right.
Do you remember that?
Mr. Jenner. Yes, that is correct.
Mr. Dulles. That is correct. It had not taken place.
Mr. McKenzie. It had not taken place in November of 1962.
Mr. Dulles. Right.
Mr. McKenzie. To the best of our knowledge.
Mr. Jenner. Did the witness have any opportunity to respond to my last question?
Mr. McKenzie. You had finished your question and I interrupted you before you could make another question.
Mr. Jenner. You mean the witness had responded to it?
Mr. Dulles. No; I do not think he had.
Mr. Jenner. Would you read the pending question?
(The last question was read by the reporter.)
Mr. Jenner. Did you see Marina at any time subsequent to their departure on Thanksgiving Day, November 1962 and November 22, 1963?
Mr. Oswald. No, sir; I had not.
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