Walker incident took place on April 10, 1963, according to our records.
Senator Cooper. I would like you if you can to repeat everything that Mrs. Oswald told you about the Nixon incident. What did Lee say to her?
Mr. Martin. This has been a very confusing 2 months——
Senator Cooper. I know that.
Mr. Martin. To me.
Senator Cooper. Do the best you can. Take your time and tell us about it.
Mr. Martin. I couldn't recall it verbatim, but she said he came in one evening, early in the evening, and said that he had tried to shoot Nixon but that he had not come into town that night as he was supposed to have, or that day, but that he would be in the next day, and he would take care of it then.
(Discussion off the record.)
Senator Cooper. I think you said that she did at least partly identify the time by saying at the time they were living on Neely Street.
Mr. Martin. Neely Street.
Mr. Dulles. May I just add there our records indicate they were living on Neely Street on March 2, between March 2, 1963, and April 24, 1963.
Senator Cooper. Did Mrs. Oswald tell you anything that he said about the way or means he intended to kill him or at what place?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Do you recall what weapon she mentioned at the time?
Mr. Martin. I don't know if I recall that she said shoot him or kill him.
Representative Ford. Could she speak English well enough to differentiate between shoot and kill?
Mr. Martin. At the time?
Representative Ford. Yes.
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Representative Ford. She could distinguish English that well?
Mr. Redlich. Did she mention a pistol or rifle?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Did she mention whether he was employed at the time or unemployed at the time?
Mr. Martin. I don't believe so.
Mr. Redlich. Did you ask her how it was possible for her to keep him in a bathroom for one whole day?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Dulles. Did you ask her why Lee Harvey Oswald wanted to kill Nixon, any motive?
Mr. Martin. I think I asked, "Well, why would he want to do that?" And she shrugged her shoulders.
Senator Cooper. I would like to follow up on that. In this conversation with her, did he give any reason to Marina Oswald why he wanted to kill Nixon?
Mr. Martin. Evidently not. She didn't answer. She didn't answer me when I asked.
Mr. Redlich. Mr. Martin, you have said in your opinion the Nixon incident was after the Walker incident.
Mr. Martin. Well, that is what she said.
Mr. Redlich. Did she relate it to the General Walker incident in any way when she discussed the Nixon incident with you?
Mr. Martin. She just said it was after General Walker.
Mr. Redlich. Did she relate to you any conversation that she may have had with Lee Harvey Oswald relating the Nixon incident to the Walker incident?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Did she refer to any promise that he may have made at the time of the Walker incident that may have related to the Nixon incident?
Mr. Martin. No. I remember her saying after the Walker incident she told him that if he ever did anything of that nature again that she would report him to the police.
Mr. Dulles. How did you know the Nixon incident was after or supposed to be after the Walker incident? Did she say that?
Mr. Martin. She said it was.
Mr. Dulles. She said that?
Mr. Martin. Yes; I asked when it happened and she said after Walker.
Mr. Redlich. When she told you that she had threatened Lee Oswald with going to the police if there were another incident, did you ever ask her why she had not done so in light of the Nixon incident which subsequently followed?
Mr. Martin. I must not have because I think I would have remembered it if I had.
Mr. Redlich. Did you ever consider reporting the Nixon incident to any Federal authorities?
Mr. Martin. If it didn't come out in the hearing, yes.
Mr. Redlich. When Mrs. Oswald was preparing to come to Washington with you for the hearings before this Commission, did you discuss the Nixon incident with her?
Mr. Martin. I don't think so. I know I told her to be sure to tell the truth to the Commission. She had mentioned that she had lied to the FBI.
Mr. Redlich. With regard to what?
Mr. Martin. On a Mexico trip. She told the FBI she didn't know he had gone there or that he was going.
Mr. Redlich. To the best of your knowledge had she ever related the Nixon incident to the FBI or Secret Service prior to her trip to Washington?
Mr. Martin. I don't know. I was never in on any of the questions.
Mr. Redlich. Did you give her any advice in connection with any of those interviews?
Mr. Martin. No. I told her if she got tired to tell them so that they could come back the next day.
Mr. Redlich. You say when she was planning to come here you advised her to tell the truth?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Redlich. Did you give her similar advice in connection with the FBI and Secret Service interviews?
Mr. Martin. I don't think the situation ever arose. She asked specifically about the Mexico incident.
Mr. Redlich. Throughout the many interviews with the FBI and Secret Service you never asked her, I take it, whether she had discussed the Nixon incident with the FBI or the Secret Service?
Mr. Martin. I think I may have asked her when she told me, if she had told the FBI.
Mr. Redlich. What did she say?
Mr. Martin. She said no.
Mr. Redlich. What did you say?
Mr. Martin. I don't recall if I said anything.
Representative Ford. Mr. Redlich. I wonder if we couldn't have Mr. Martin tell us the time of day and the circumstances
