Marina in the presence of your wife arose, not necessarily the date but the time of day, and the overall——
Mr. Martin. It was in the evening.
Representative Ford. You were sitting around the room?
Mr. Martin. Yes, in the den.
Representative Ford. Just the three of you?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Representative Ford. Did she just start talking or did you prompt her or just how did the situation arise?
Mr. Martin. I don't recall. I think maybe—I think it just came into conversation as we were talking about the whole thing in general.
Mr. Dulles. Were you talking at that time about what her memoirs or any writings she might——
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Dulles. —she might produce would include?
Mr. Martin. No.
Representative Ford. What was your wife's reaction to this story?
Mr. Martin. Well, she couldn't believe it either.
Representative Ford. Did she ask any questions about it such as the ones you have indicated?
Mr. Martin. No, other than the ones I asked.
Mr. Redlich. Could you tell us with whom you have discussed the Nixon incident other than those that you have mentioned thus far, I believe thus far you have said Mrs. Martin and Mr. Thorne.
Is there anyone else you have told this to?
Mr. Martin. Don Levine.
Mr. Redlich. Who?
Mr. Martin. Levine.
Mr. Redlich. Who is he?
Mr. Martin. A writer.
Mr. Redlich. For what publication.
Mr. Martin. He is an author.
Mr. Dulles. Freelance writer and author, Isaac Don Levine for the record.
Mr. Redlich. When did you relate this incident to him?
Mr. Martin. Back in January.
Mr. Redlich. Could you tell us why you told him?
Mr. Martin. He is of the opinion that there is more to this than meets the eye, so to speak. He is——
Mr. Dulles. More to what?
Mr. Martin. More to the assassination.
Mr. Dulles. The Nixon story?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Dulles. The whole assassination, Kennedy assassination?
Mr. Martin. And he—of course, he is quite familiar with Russian affairs, and he said the stories just don't match, and he was trying to tie in Oswald, I guess, with the Communist Party or some attachment there some place, and I mentioned that I thought he was just a nut.
Mr. Redlich. That who was.
Mr. Martin. Oswald. And I said, I told him I didn't know how true it was but then I related the story, and he—I cautioned him not to pass it around or anything like that, which he said he wouldn't.
Mr. Redlich. Were you or Marina Oswald compensated in any way for the release of this information to Mr. Levine?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Dulles. Was Mr. Levine at this time trying to get the rights to the story or the right to write the story?
Mr. Martin. He wants to write the story, and through Meredith Press.
Mr. Redlich. Were you negotiating with Mr. Levine at the time concerning the rights to Marina Oswald's story?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Redlich. And it was during the course of these negotiations that you revealed to him the Nixon incident?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Redlich. And this, you say, was sometime in January?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Redlich. Did you tell anyone else other than Mr. Levine?
Mr. Martin. Not that I recall unless it was Robert Oswald.
Mr. Redlich. Will you try to refresh your recollection with regard to Robert?
Mr. Martin. I beg your pardon?
Mr. Redlich. Do you recall whether you had a conversation in mid-January with Robert Oswald concerning the Nixon incident?
Mr. Martin. I don't remember. I was trying to remember that the other day to find out if I had mentioned it to him. And——
Mr. Redlich. Do you recall when Robert Oswald would come to visit your house?
Mr. Martin. On Sundays.
Mr. Redlich. And what would he do on these Sundays?
Mr. Martin. Usually take Marina and the baby to the cemetery.
Mr. Redlich. Do you recall whether on one of those Sundays you had a conversation with him concerning the Nixon incident?
Mr. Martin. I don't remember. I am not sure whether I did tell him or not. It seems to me that I did, but I can't recall the incident at all.
Mr. Redlich. Did Mrs. Oswald, Marina Oswald, ever indicate to you that she had discussed the Nixon incident with anyone else?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. To be more specific, did she ever indicate to you whether she had discussed the Nixon incident with Robert Oswald?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. With Mrs. Marguerite Oswald?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. With any Federal authority?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Could you state again what your advice to her was with regard to the revealing of this incident?
Mr. Martin. Well, I told her it would be advisable just not to say anything about it.
Mr. Redlich. To anyone?
Mr. Martin. That is right.
Mr. Redlich. But you related the incident to Mr. Levine.
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Redlich. When you accompanied Mrs. Oswald
