Redlich. The person you were speaking to, as I understand this story, received the information from a maintenance man whose wife was the telephone operator who overheard the conversation?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Representative Boggs. Was this a telephone operator in a Dinkler hotel?
Mr. Martin. I didn't get that whether it was in a Dinkler hotel or whether she was in the long distance or toll offices in Atlanta.
Representative Boggs. Did this person have the credit card number and so forth?
Mr. Martin. No. The person that I was talking to?
Representative Boggs. Did the telephone operator have it?
Mr. Martin. The telephone operator did, or the telephone company has the records.
Representative Boggs. Do you have any other information that would indicate that——
Mr. Martin. No, I know this doesn't indicate anything about Marina as far as—no, it is just a strange feeling as far as Marina is concerned. She is too cold.
Mr. Redlich. When did you hear about this story, Mr. Martin?
Mr. Martin. About a week ago.
Mr. Redlich. You haven't discussed it at all with Marina in that week?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. I would like to question you again on Congressman Boggs point. You have said she is too cold, you have said you thought that all this was preplanned. Is there anything specific in anything that she told you or in any of her actions which would lead you to believe that she has withheld certain information from you, or this Commission, concerning her knowledge about the assassination?
Mr. Martin. No, except she made a remark to me one time that she didn't volunteer anything. She only answered questions.
Representative Ford. This was after the return from the Commission hearing?
Mr. Martin. No, this was sometime ago. That was before——
Representative Ford. Before the Commission hearing where she appeared?
Mr. Martin. Yes. And it was——
Mr. Dulles. Is that all you had on this particular point?
Representative Boggs. Yes.
Mr. Martin. I don't remember what brought it up even. She didn't like the FBI. She said that. And she didn't like to answer questions.
Mr. Redlich. Did she tell you why?
Mr. Martin. No. She just didn't like them. Boguslav in particular.
Mr. Dulles. But her remark was made before her hearing before this Commission?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Dulles. And did not relate then to that hearing.
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Did she indicate to you she had revealed everything that there was to reveal before this Commission?
Mr. Martin. Yes. There again I didn't question her about anything that she said in the Commission. I didn't feel it was any of my business for one thing, and all I asked her is how it went, and she would say fine, and that would be the end of it. That is the limit of my questioning her as far as testimony within the Commission was concerned.
Mr. Redlich. Will you tell us how you found out about the General Walker incident?
Mr. Martin. Read it from the newspapers.
Mr. Redlich. When you read about it did you talk to Mrs. Oswald about it?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Redlich. Could you tell us the nature of the conversation?
Mr. Martin. Well, I asked her if it was true, and she said yes, and I also asked her who was with Oswald, and she said no one. He did things alone. And, let's see, she related the story as to the note he had written. He had left earlier in the evening, and he hadn't come home at the, we'll say, at an early hour, and she was getting quite upset with him, and she found this note on a bed table or somewhere in the bedroom, and read it, and it simply said that he might be gone for a time or he might be in jail, and instructions as to what to do in case he was gone.
Mr. Redlich. Did Marina tell you all about this?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Redlich. In English?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Redlich. She knew English well enough to be able to relate this type of story?
Mr. Martin. She learned very rapidly.
Mr. Redlich. Do you recall approximately when that was?
Mr. Martin. No. It was the same day it came out in the paper.
Representative Ford. Did she know of her own knowledge about General Walker? Did she indicate any background information about General Walker?
Mr. Martin. No.
Representative Ford. She only told what Lee told her about it?
Mr. Martin. Lee told her he was a Fascist.
Mr. Dulles. Did she recount to you, that is, did Marina account to you, what she said to Lee Harvey after this incident, after the Walker incident, after he told her about the Walker incident?
Mr. Martin. Yes, she said that she hid the note that he left in a cookbook and told him if he ever did anything like that again that she would turn that note over to the police and turn him over to the police also.
Mr. Redlich. Mr. Martin, were you aware that Marina Oswald had given this information voluntarily to the Secret Service or the FBI concerning the Walker incident?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Did you ever ask her about it?
Mr. Martin. Well, it was in the newspapers so I assumed they knew about it.
Mr. Redlich. And you assumed she had volunteered this information?
Mr. Martin. Well, of course now, I was a little concerned to begin with as to how it got out.
Mr. Redlich. Why were you concerned?
Mr. Martin. Well, if she had told it to the FBI and the FBI only then how did it get in the newspapers?
Mr. Redlich. What was the—you say you were concerned that certain aspects of her story were being released. What was the nature of your concern?
Mr. Martin. Well, I was just wondering how that information got to the newspapers?
Mr. Redlich. Did you ask her?
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