remind you that all you see around you is illusion – all you see around you is smoke and mirrors and dreams; to remind you that there are other planes that await you, other places waiting to welcome you, other people waiting to teach you, to be taught by you, other vistas that will open up to you.
I look at this world and I ...‘despair’ is the wrong word... but certainly I am saddened. I am saddened by the way things are going; I am saddened by the way that brother treats sister/treats brother; I am saddened by the pain that is inflicted on this world and on you daily through your thoughts, through your angers that needn’t be there, through your politics, through people who wish to manipulate, through people who think that the world is an endless source of supply.
The ‘shop’ is about to shut, Ladies and Gentlemen! The ‘offers’ are about to be withdrawn, and we have to make a difference whilst we still can or that ‘closed sign’ will be up permanently.
I don’t suppose you are interested in me – I am certainly not interested in me. I am interested in doing rather than in being; I am interested in what we can do, why we need to do it, how things work. And so I would like to put myself to one side – as Michael has done – and I would like to invite your questions. Who would like to speak to me?
Shirley Hayhurst: I would like to ask a question, Joseph, and thank you very much – it is a real pleasure to be able to talk to you. It is quite a frivolous question in a way: when you came here and you were an Atlantean did you have the same sort of a body then that we have now or was it…?
Joseph [smiling]: I had a far better body than you have now!
Forgive my sense of humour. We were basically the same but we had a more etheric quality than you have now. Over the centuries the world has added to your cares as you have reincarnated and reincarnated and you are denser in form than you used to be. It was far easier for us to slip into different levels of consciousness; it was far easier for us to communicate with the spiritual side of life; it was far easier for us to communicate telepathically (as you would understand it). So, in the respect of our souls, we had very different capabilities than you have now, but the shame and the upset is that you still have those capabilities – they are masked, they are surrounded by the dense matter of the thoughts on your plane of existence that prevent you from being so much more than you could be.
So, yes, I was similar to you in form but the atoms within my physical body were more rarefied than yours – as were they for all of us, for our society. And society was far different than it is for you because we took decisions as a group. And you might say: ‘Well, we take decisions as a group – we have parliaments, we have governments.’ That is not what I mean. We would, on a psychic level, decide upon the way forward – the call would go out to each of us. We were aware of our role as part of the group soul whilst we were on Earth, and so we operated very much like the group soul does on the higher planes of existence. So, there would be the individual part of ourselves – the part that you would recognise as ‘you’ and the part that I would recognise as ‘me’ – but we would have an overall consciousness that permeated this individual consciousness. And along that consciousness would be transmitted thoughts, and hopes, and dreams, and desires, and questions and we could... (you call it ‘multi-tasking’ now) ...we could multi-task quite easily. We could exist on this level of consciousness and we could also exist on a higher level of consciousness and make decisions on both levels.
So, anatomically similar, yes, but spiritually, no – we had a greater advantage than you have today and, as I have said, the framework of our physicality was less heavy than yours, but this is because of the effects of the Field of consciousness upon you. It is not an individual fault; it is simply a circumstance that has been brought on by centuries of thinking and of reacting in a certain manner.
Does that answer your question?
Shirley: Yes, it does. Do you think that we will ever get back to that situation?
Joseph: I would not be here this evening if I did not think ...and know ...and wish ...and pray ...and get down on my knees to ask that you get back to that position. You must remember that you are already at that position within. It is simply masked, it is simply ‘trapped’, as it were, by the all-pervading Field around you and what we are trying to do, by raising your consciousness and your awareness, is break that outer shell so that the ‘butterfly’ emerges once again.
Shirley: Thank you.
Joseph: Who is next, please?
Cameron Collinge: I would like to ask a question, Joseph. There is much debate at the moment regarding orbs and whether they are actually spiritual existence or whether they are just light reflected off dust particles picked up by modern digital cameras. Do you have an opinion on this?
Joseph: Yes, I have a very strong opinion on that, and the answer is: you are creating technology with our help, with our inspiration – because all inspiration is filtered down from the higher levels, all your great creations, all your moments of saying, ‘Eureka!’ have been because you have connected with higher levels that are trying to steer your world – and you have technology at this point that is far more sensitive than it used to be. And were you to see the spirit life, were you to see the higher spheres than this one, you would be aware of brilliant colours. Were you to see the astral level that is very close to this one you would be aware of a million thought-forms, a million dreams given form by the thought-process of millions of human beings. From moment to moment, as you measure it, these things – these aspects of life – are all around you.
You have cameras now that can capture the beginnings – just the beginnings – of spiritual truth. We try to influence them but you must understand that you have thousands and thousands of people who are going out trying to capture orbs! What they should try to do is to pray before they take photographs, is to hold their cameras and infuse those cameras with Love and with peace, to talk to the cameras because the camera is a part of the matrix of Creation, the camera is sentient, the camera can be spoken to and can be conditioned.
If you want better orbs talk to your camera, love your camera and say: ‘I’m not looking for orbs. I’m looking for evidence that I can give to others that will convince others – not myself.’ You should not need evidence for yourself but pray for manifestations that will convince others, that will set them thinking, that will allow them to break out of their prison, that will allow them to think: ‘There’s something else! There’s something I don’t understand.’
We have recently begun to influence the lights that are picked up by the Band of Light [reference to the group that helps Michael] to include images. It is a long job because in order for us to do this we have to love the camera too, we have to love the people who are taking the photographs and we have to love the people on the other side so that their images can be reproduced by digital media. It is a long process and you will always find the Field saying, ‘It is this. It is that.’ If a thousand spirits now were to tap-dance in front of you, there would be those looking through the windows who tomorrow would say, ‘That did not happen – it was a trick of the light!’ It is so sad that human beings are so willing to believe in everything they see on this level and yet give so little time to the possibilities within themselves.
There will be further breakthroughs in technology that will leave people in no doubt regarding spirit communication (because orbs are part of that movement of communication) that they are capturing images, colours and scenes from somewhere else. Our worry is that people will treat this as a novelty and it takes a great deal of power, a great deal of energy to influence the cameras and the machines that you have at the moment.
There are advances in digital clarity with regard
