Martin. Not to my knowledge.
Mr. Redlich. You have had no conversations with anyone else about him?
Mr. Martin. No. We were—I think John Thorne and I were talking about at sometime we may need an interpreter, and I mentioned his name in that instance.
Mr. Redlich. That would be the elder Mr. Gregory?
Mr. Martin. Yes. But nothing on Paul Gregory.
Mr. Redlich. Nothing on Paul Gregory?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Are you aware of the fact that Paul Gregory is a student at the University of Oklahoma?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Did Marina ever discuss with you the fact that she had helped tutor the son of Peter Gregory?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Are you familiar with—strike that. Do you have any personal acquaintanceship with Gary Taylor?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Have you ever heard the name of Gary Taylor?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Marina Oswald has never discussed that name with you?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Do you know Mrs. Elena Hall?
Mr. Martin. Elena Hall? No.
Mr. Redlich. Has Marina ever discussed her with you?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. The name John R. Hall, who is the husband of Mrs. Elena Hall?
Mr. Martin. No, it sounded a little familiar but I can't place anything on it.
Mr. Redlich. Do you know Mrs. Katherine Ford?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Redlich. Could you tell us how you came to know her?
Mr. Martin. Let's see, she had contacted Marina a couple of times by letter, and——
Representative Ford. While she was staying at your home?
Mr. Martin. Yes—well, she sent the letter to Grand Prairie, the letters, Christmas cards, and I think two letters after that. So I called her and Marina wanted to, expressed a desire to, talk to her. So I called her and Marina talked to her on the phone. I think every time she talked to her she talked nearly an hour.
Representative Ford. In Russian or in English?
Mr. Martin. In Russian.
Mr. Dulles. Was it on the telephone?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Redlich. Did Marina ever tell you the gist of these conversations?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Did Marina ever relate to you whether she had ever lived in Mrs. Ford's home?
Mr. Martin. I believe she had for a very short time.
Mr. Redlich. You mean Marina related this to you?
Mr. Martin. I think Mrs. Ford told me that.
Mr. Redlich. How did you get this knowledge, from Marina or from Mrs. Ford? Did you ever discuss this with Marina?
Mr. Martin. No. I know Marina likes her home, I mean likes the house that they live in.
Mr. Redlich. Did you ever ask Marina how it came about that she was separated from her husband and living at the home of Mrs. Ford?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Did any of Marina's other Russian-speaking friends in the Dallas-Fort Worth area write letters to her while she was at your home?
Mr. Martin. Mrs. Paine wrote at least once a week and——
Mr. Dulles. Once a week?
Mr. Martin. Yes. Marina did not answer, didn't answer any of the letters and didn't call her.
Mr. Redlich. Did Mrs. Paine attempt to reach Marina by phone?
Mr. Martin. Yes, until I had my telephone number changed and then she couldn't find the phone number so she came over to the house.
Mr. Redlich. What happened when she came to the house?
Mr. Martin. Nothing, I let her in the house and Marina and the children were back in the den and the Secret Service men went back into the den, and I don't believe she knew that she was there.
Mr. Dulles. Was the change in number, did it have anything to do with Marina as objecting to receiving the calls?
Mr. Martin. No. That was strictly because the press pressure.
Mr. Dulles. The presence of the press?
Mr. Redlich. I would like to go back to this incident when Mrs. Paine came to see Marina. You say Marina did not know that Mrs. Paine was there?
Mr. Martin. Yes, she knew it.
Mr. Redlich. She knew that Mrs. Paine was there?
Mr. Martin. Mrs. Paine didn't know that Marina was there.
Mr. Redlich. But Marina knew that Mrs. Paine was there?
Mr. Martin. Yes.
Mr. Redlich. Did Marina see Mrs. Paine at that time?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Did you talk to Marina at that time?
Mr. Martin. Well, before and after.
Mr. Redlich. At the time Mrs. Paine was there did you personally tell Marina that Mrs. Paine wanted to see her?
Mr. Martin. I told her before Mrs. Paine came in the door that Mrs. Paine was here, and she said she didn't want to see her. She stayed in the den, and Mrs. Paine was in the living room.
Mr. Redlich. Then did you convey this message to Mrs. Paine yourself?
Mr. Martin. No.
Mr. Redlich. Who did?
Mr. Martin. Well, she came with the intention or for the purpose of bringing a package to Marina that she had received in the mail, and I don't believe she knew that Marina was living there. I told her at that time that because of security that Marina wasn't seeing anyone but I don't believe she knew that Marina was at that address until later.
Mr. Redlich. When Mrs. Paine called your home prior to the change of phone, did you speak to Mrs. Paine?
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